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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://kjtoo.com/2007/10/05/tvstuff-return-of-fall-season-2007/#comment-36505</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 21:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That's a pretty interesting list, Kris. Schools do make kids read some interesting things. I look at your list and think to myself: do those teachers really think high school kids will understand this stuff? They may get the basic idea but appreciating the quality of the writing and the plotting and things like that are not the province of your typical teenager.

Heart of Darkness is worth a read. It's astonishing to discover that English was not Conrad's first language, given that he writes so well in it. (At least, I'm pretty sure he wrote in English and it wasn't translated.)

Guess what I'm reading right now? You got it: Great Expectations. I'll let you know how it goes. OK, I'm off to take care of the invalid wife and child. It's one of those situations where I take care of them and wonder how long it will be until I get sick. Oh, I already emailed you but the folks reading these comments could stand to know: Happy Anniversary to the Johnsons!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a pretty interesting list, Kris. Schools do make kids read some interesting things. I look at your list and think to myself: do those teachers really think high school kids will understand this stuff? They may get the basic idea but appreciating the quality of the writing and the plotting and things like that are not the province of your typical teenager.</p>
<p>Heart of Darkness is worth a read. It&#8217;s astonishing to discover that English was not Conrad&#8217;s first language, given that he writes so well in it. (At least, I&#8217;m pretty sure he wrote in English and it wasn&#8217;t translated.)</p>
<p>Guess what I&#8217;m reading right now? You got it: Great Expectations. I&#8217;ll let you know how it goes. OK, I&#8217;m off to take care of the invalid wife and child. It&#8217;s one of those situations where I take care of them and wonder how long it will be until I get sick. Oh, I already emailed you but the folks reading these comments could stand to know: Happy Anniversary to the Johnsons!</p>
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		<title>By: KJToo</title>
		<link>http://kjtoo.com/2007/10/05/tvstuff-return-of-fall-season-2007/#comment-36461</link>
		<dc:creator>KJToo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 18:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slowhand: We read Shakespeare (&lt;em&gt;Hamlet&lt;/em&gt;), but I didn't count it because it's a play, not a book.

I've not read &lt;em&gt;Heart of Darkness&lt;/em&gt;, but I have it at home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slowhand: We read Shakespeare (<em>Hamlet</em>), but I didn&#8217;t count it because it&#8217;s a play, not a book.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve not read <em>Heart of Darkness</em>, but I have it at home.</p>
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		<title>By: Slowhand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slowhand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I second the nomination for Life. It stars the guy who played the lead in Band of Brothers, although I forget his name. 

Theodore Drieser has slowly fallen out of favor. Its possible you eluded him in school, and if so, you should give thanks to Cthulu.

But while I'm not necessarily suprised you've never had to read it, I am somewhat surprised you've never heard of 'An American Tragedy'.

They never made you read Heart of Darkness either?

No Shakespeare?

I'd ask for my money back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I second the nomination for Life. It stars the guy who played the lead in Band of Brothers, although I forget his name. </p>
<p>Theodore Drieser has slowly fallen out of favor. Its possible you eluded him in school, and if so, you should give thanks to Cthulu.</p>
<p>But while I&#8217;m not necessarily suprised you&#8217;ve never had to read it, I am somewhat surprised you&#8217;ve never heard of &#8216;An American Tragedy&#8217;.</p>
<p>They never made you read Heart of Darkness either?</p>
<p>No Shakespeare?</p>
<p>I&#8217;d ask for my money back.</p>
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		<title>By: KJToo</title>
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		<dc:creator>KJToo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm loving the feedback on this post.

P.G.: I've heard good things about &lt;em&gt;Life&lt;/em&gt;, and I'm surprisd because it wasn't on my radar at all. In fact, I'd never heard of it until someone at work was extolling its virtues.

Slowhand: Am I a philistine if this is the first I'm hearing of Theodore Drieser?

Rob: Here's a list of everything I can remember reading for school from about the 6th grade on:
&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;em&gt;The Red Badge of Courage&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;em&gt;Where the Red Fern Grows&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;em&gt;Great Expectations&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;em&gt;The Jungle&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;em&gt;Lord of the Flies&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;em&gt;Les Miserables&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;em&gt;1984&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;em&gt;The Grapes of Wrath&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;em&gt;A Separate Peace&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;em&gt;The Catcher in the Rye&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;

I think we read part of &lt;em&gt;Tom Sawyer&lt;/em&gt;, but not all of it. I was also miffed that we stopped reading &lt;em&gt;Les Miserable&lt;/em&gt; about two-thirds of the way through it; that was one of the few books we had to read that I was enjoying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m loving the feedback on this post.</p>
<p>P.G.: I&#8217;ve heard good things about <em>Life</em>, and I&#8217;m surprisd because it wasn&#8217;t on my radar at all. In fact, I&#8217;d never heard of it until someone at work was extolling its virtues.</p>
<p>Slowhand: Am I a philistine if this is the first I&#8217;m hearing of Theodore Drieser?</p>
<p>Rob: Here&#8217;s a list of everything I can remember reading for school from about the 6th grade on:</p>
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<li><em>The Red Badge of Courage</em></li>
<li><em>Where the Red Fern Grows</em></li>
<li><em>Great Expectations</em></li>
<li><em>The Jungle</em></li>
<li><em>Lord of the Flies</em></li>
<li><em>Les Miserables</em></li>
<li><em>1984</em></li>
<li><em>The Grapes of Wrath</em></li>
<li><em>A Separate Peace</em></li>
<li><em>The Catcher in the Rye</em></li>
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<p>I think we read part of <em>Tom Sawyer</em>, but not all of it. I was also miffed that we stopped reading <em>Les Miserable</em> about two-thirds of the way through it; that was one of the few books we had to read that I was enjoying.</p>
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		<title>By: P.G. Holyfield</title>
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		<dc:creator>P.G. Holyfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 04:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One show you should check out is Life. I like shows that have both an episodic storyline and an overarching storyline (a la X-Files). I've always liked Damian Lewis, too. I fear this show will be this season's Raines, however. 

I like Chuck and Reaper. Right now the only thing worth watching in Bionic Woman is Katie Sackhoff, but it will remain a guilty pleasure until it is canceled. 

I've enjoyed Journeyman and Heroes. Pushing Daisies may be the best new show, but the fairytale quality that makes it so special may doom it to a single season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One show you should check out is Life. I like shows that have both an episodic storyline and an overarching storyline (a la X-Files). I&#8217;ve always liked Damian Lewis, too. I fear this show will be this season&#8217;s Raines, however. </p>
<p>I like Chuck and Reaper. Right now the only thing worth watching in Bionic Woman is Katie Sackhoff, but it will remain a guilty pleasure until it is canceled. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve enjoyed Journeyman and Heroes. Pushing Daisies may be the best new show, but the fairytale quality that makes it so special may doom it to a single season.</p>
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		<title>By: Slowhand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slowhand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 04:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Even better, you could stop watching television entirely and read Bleak House by Charles Dickens. Television can’t hold a candle to Dickens."

Or I could do both. Although I think I'd had enough Dickens to last my lifetime by my 2d year of college. 

"Oh, and as for Charles Dickens, I’ll paraphrase Peter Griffin: I have read his work and I am not a fan. I was force-fed Great Expectations in high school, and if there’s one sure-fire way to turn people off classic literature, it’s to cram it down their throats in the 9th grade."

It could have been worse. You might have been forcefed Theodore Drieser. The tragedy in 'An American Tragedy' is how it can destroy a love of literature for life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Even better, you could stop watching television entirely and read Bleak House by Charles Dickens. Television can’t hold a candle to Dickens.&#8221;</p>
<p>Or I could do both. Although I think I&#8217;d had enough Dickens to last my lifetime by my 2d year of college. </p>
<p>&#8220;Oh, and as for Charles Dickens, I’ll paraphrase Peter Griffin: I have read his work and I am not a fan. I was force-fed Great Expectations in high school, and if there’s one sure-fire way to turn people off classic literature, it’s to cram it down their throats in the 9th grade.&#8221;</p>
<p>It could have been worse. You might have been forcefed Theodore Drieser. The tragedy in &#8216;An American Tragedy&#8217; is how it can destroy a love of literature for life.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 23:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now THAT is customer service. Love the slightly bigger font!

Hard to believe they didn't force-feed Huckleberry Finn to you. What were they teaching up there in Michigan? I thought you couldn't graduate high school without reading Huckleberry Finn. Well, all kidding aside, it's a pretty good read.

Looking to be a banner night here . . . boy is running a mild temperature because we've got two teeth ready to make their appearance in the world and wife just came in, went to the bedroom and went to sleep after informing me that she had to pull over on her drive home to puke. I think I'll sleep on the couch tonight just to be safe. Aieee.

Not exactly information you needed to know but there you have it. Let me know when we've set the record for most pointless, lengthy set of comments for kjtoo. There's no shortage of random subjects I could discuss and I'm sure that's what your loyal readers would enjoy most: random irritating comments from somebody they don't know from Adam (see: we could discuss/research the etymology of the phrase "don't know from Adam" and see what that's all about).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now THAT is customer service. Love the slightly bigger font!</p>
<p>Hard to believe they didn&#8217;t force-feed Huckleberry Finn to you. What were they teaching up there in Michigan? I thought you couldn&#8217;t graduate high school without reading Huckleberry Finn. Well, all kidding aside, it&#8217;s a pretty good read.</p>
<p>Looking to be a banner night here . . . boy is running a mild temperature because we&#8217;ve got two teeth ready to make their appearance in the world and wife just came in, went to the bedroom and went to sleep after informing me that she had to pull over on her drive home to puke. I think I&#8217;ll sleep on the couch tonight just to be safe. Aieee.</p>
<p>Not exactly information you needed to know but there you have it. Let me know when we&#8217;ve set the record for most pointless, lengthy set of comments for kjtoo. There&#8217;s no shortage of random subjects I could discuss and I&#8217;m sure that&#8217;s what your loyal readers would enjoy most: random irritating comments from somebody they don&#8217;t know from Adam (see: we could discuss/research the etymology of the phrase &#8220;don&#8217;t know from Adam&#8221; and see what that&#8217;s all about).</p>
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		<title>By: KJToo</title>
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		<dc:creator>KJToo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 21:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, but you &lt;em&gt;were&lt;/em&gt; asked about the redesign, at least to the degree that I solicited feedback.

And see what happened just now? You may need to do a refresh (Ctrl-F5 is my preferred method), but hopefully you've noticed that the font size in the posts and the comments has been bumped from 12 to 15 pixels, and the line height bumped from 18 to 21 pixels. I also bumped the comment author name up a bit to help make it stand out more. 

That's as near to instant results as you're likely to see.

Additional comments are welcome, as the redesign is ongoing.

As for &lt;em&gt;Huckleberry Finn&lt;/em&gt;, alas, it is one of those books that was &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; force-fed to me in high school, and I'm rather embarrassed to admit that I've never read it.

Upton Sinclair's &lt;em&gt;The Jungle&lt;/em&gt;, yes. &lt;em&gt;Huckleberry Finn&lt;/em&gt;, no.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, but you <em>were</em> asked about the redesign, at least to the degree that I solicited feedback.</p>
<p>And see what happened just now? You may need to do a refresh (Ctrl-F5 is my preferred method), but hopefully you&#8217;ve noticed that the font size in the posts and the comments has been bumped from 12 to 15 pixels, and the line height bumped from 18 to 21 pixels. I also bumped the comment author name up a bit to help make it stand out more. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s as near to instant results as you&#8217;re likely to see.</p>
<p>Additional comments are welcome, as the redesign is ongoing.</p>
<p>As for <em>Huckleberry Finn</em>, alas, it is one of those books that was <em>not</em> force-fed to me in high school, and I&#8217;m rather embarrassed to admit that I&#8217;ve never read it.</p>
<p>Upton Sinclair&#8217;s <em>The Jungle</em>, yes. <em>Huckleberry Finn</em>, no.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 20:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1984: Great stuff. Perhaps the best opening sentence for a novel ever written. Can't say I'm a big fan of Catcher in the Rye of The Grapes of Wrath. Not bad, but they never did it for me. To each his own. If you haven't re-read Huckleberry Finn, that one is definitely worth reading any number of times. There's a passage near the end when Huck and Tom decide to capture some snakes to make Jim's imprisonment even more insufferable but the snakes get loose in the house. It's one of the funniest things I've read in some time.

Bleak House. Trust me. Worth it. You'll see.

Actually, you won't see. But you SHOULD see. Then, you'd know how right I am. You might think it would be a lot of work being this right. It's just my little cross to bear.

As long as I wasn't asked: I think you should have chosen a bigger font for your redesign. You don't want to get me started on the topics of redesigns. It's what sites (AG does it all the time) do when they've got nothing better to do. There, you did it, you got me started. Who knows where it will end?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1984: Great stuff. Perhaps the best opening sentence for a novel ever written. Can&#8217;t say I&#8217;m a big fan of Catcher in the Rye of The Grapes of Wrath. Not bad, but they never did it for me. To each his own. If you haven&#8217;t re-read Huckleberry Finn, that one is definitely worth reading any number of times. There&#8217;s a passage near the end when Huck and Tom decide to capture some snakes to make Jim&#8217;s imprisonment even more insufferable but the snakes get loose in the house. It&#8217;s one of the funniest things I&#8217;ve read in some time.</p>
<p>Bleak House. Trust me. Worth it. You&#8217;ll see.</p>
<p>Actually, you won&#8217;t see. But you SHOULD see. Then, you&#8217;d know how right I am. You might think it would be a lot of work being this right. It&#8217;s just my little cross to bear.</p>
<p>As long as I wasn&#8217;t asked: I think you should have chosen a bigger font for your redesign. You don&#8217;t want to get me started on the topics of redesigns. It&#8217;s what sites (AG does it all the time) do when they&#8217;ve got nothing better to do. There, you did it, you got me started. Who knows where it will end?</p>
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		<title>By: KJToo</title>
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		<dc:creator>KJToo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 20:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've revisited a couple of the books that were required reading in high school, including &lt;em&gt;The Catcher in the Rye&lt;/em&gt;, &lt;em&gt;The Grapes of Wrath&lt;/em&gt; and &lt;em&gt;1984&lt;/em&gt;. The first two were way back when The Ravenhill Book Club was in full swing, but I've read &lt;em&gt;1984&lt;/em&gt; twice in the last fifteen years and no book club can take credit for that.

That said, I'm not re-reading &lt;em&gt;Great Expectations&lt;/em&gt; anytime soon, except at gunpoint. I may give Dickens another shot, but my reading list is far too long to say it'll be in the foreseeable future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve revisited a couple of the books that were required reading in high school, including <em>The Catcher in the Rye</em>, <em>The Grapes of Wrath</em> and <em>1984</em>. The first two were way back when The Ravenhill Book Club was in full swing, but I&#8217;ve read <em>1984</em> twice in the last fifteen years and no book club can take credit for that.</p>
<p>That said, I&#8217;m not re-reading <em>Great Expectations</em> anytime soon, except at gunpoint. I may give Dickens another shot, but my reading list is far too long to say it&#8217;ll be in the foreseeable future.</p>
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